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Hosted by Deborah Solmor, a seasoned higher education general counsel, chief compliance officer and accomplished litigator. Deborah has spent the last 10 years supporting various colleges and universities.

Each episode of EdUp Experience Legal will focus on trending higher education legal and regulatory topics. And she and her guests will discuss them without the use of LEGALESE. To the contrary, these episodes are designed to specially avoid legalese and make the legalEASY.

Join us in leaving out the Legalese and making the legalEASY.

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66. Conversation with Antony Page, Dean of Florida International University College of Law

EdUp LegalAug 10, 2022

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101. Making LegalEASY: A Conversation About Website Accessibility with Jason McKee, Founder of Perspective Tester

101. Making LegalEASY: A Conversation About Website Accessibility with Jason McKee, Founder of Perspective Tester

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is ⁠⁠⁠Deborah Solmor⁠⁠⁠

In this episode, her guest is Jason McKee,  Founder, Perspective Tester. Tune in as they discuss the website accessibility landscape.

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

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We make Education YOUR business 

Feb 16, 202428:59
100. Making LegalEASY: A Conversation About Campus Health Risk Management with Stacy Bratcher

100. Making LegalEASY: A Conversation About Campus Health Risk Management with Stacy Bratcher

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal!

YOUR host is ⁠⁠⁠Deborah Solmor⁠⁠⁠

In this episode, her guest is Stacy Bratcher, Senior Vice President and Chief Legal Officer at Cottage Health, past Managing General Counsel at the University of Southern California, and host of the Legal Department podcast. Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese.

Join YOUR EdUp community at ⁠⁠⁠The EdUp Experience⁠⁠⁠!

We make Education YOUR business


Feb 08, 202427:10
99. Making LegalEASY: Recent Action from the FCC and the Lead Generator Loophole: A Conversation with Christine Reilly, Leader & Partner, Consumer Protection at Manatt, Phelps & Phillips
Feb 03, 202440:43
98. Making LegalEASY: A Conversation with Middle States Commission on Higher Education’s Recently Revised Policy and Procedures Relating to Third-Party Providers

98. Making LegalEASY: A Conversation with Middle States Commission on Higher Education’s Recently Revised Policy and Procedures Relating to Third-Party Providers

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is ⁠⁠⁠Deborah Solmor⁠⁠⁠

In this episode, her guests are Tracey Schneider, Amy Moseder, and Bridgette Boody, from Middle States Commission on Higher Education. Tune in for an insightful discussion about MSCHE’s recently released revised policy and procedure relating to third-party providers.  

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

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We make Education YOUR business


Jan 29, 202442:59
97. Making LegalEASY: From Counsel to Campus: Navigating the Presidency in Higher Education with José Padilla, President of Valparaiso University

97. Making LegalEASY: From Counsel to Campus: Navigating the Presidency in Higher Education with José Padilla, President of Valparaiso University

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal!
YOUR host is ⁠⁠⁠Deborah Solmor⁠⁠⁠
In this episode, her guest is José Padilla, President, Valparaiso University.
Today I am honored to be able to sit down with the President of Valparaiso University, José Padilla where we chat about his transition from General Counsel to President Listen in to #EdUpLegal. Making LegalEASY
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We make Education YOUR business
Dec 22, 202329:37
96: EdUp Legal: Live at the MSCHE Annual Conference with Katherine Brodie, Partner at Duane Morris

96: EdUp Legal: Live at the MSCHE Annual Conference with Katherine Brodie, Partner at Duane Morris

A special episode recorded live at MSCHE’s Annual Conference. Listen in as I chat with Katherine Brodie from Duane Morris about the issues she’s seeing in her higher education practice
Dec 05, 202322:52
 95. Making LegalEASY: A Deeper Dive Into the Certification Provisions in ED's Regulations relating to Title IV Participation with Tery Gonsalves, Chair of Alston & Bird's Education Practice

95. Making LegalEASY: A Deeper Dive Into the Certification Provisions in ED's Regulations relating to Title IV Participation with Tery Gonsalves, Chair of Alston & Bird's Education Practice

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is ⁠⁠⁠Deborah Solmor⁠⁠⁠

In this episode, her guest is ⁠Tery Gonsalves⁠ – Partner at Alston & Bird

In our last episode we looked at the Department of Education’s most recent suite of regulations impacting institutions’ participation in the Title IV program, specifically with respect to certification, financial responsibility and administrative capability. 

In this episode we take a deeper dive into the provisions relating to certification and the Program Participation Agreement 

Links to Additional Resources: 

·      ⁠Fact Sheet: Protecting Students Through Final Regulations That Strengthen Department of Education Oversight and Monitoring of Colleges and Universities⁠

·       ⁠Biden-Harris Administration Releases Final Rules that Strengthen Accountability for Colleges and Consumer Protection for Students⁠ 

·      Copy of Final Regulations related to Financial Responsibility, Administrative Capability, Certification Procedures, Ability to Benefit (ATB)⁠

·      Education Advisory: Biden-Harris Administration Expands Oversight and Monitoring of Colleges and Universities

https://www.alston.com/en/insights/publications/2023/11/biden-harris-admin-oversight-of-colleges

Listen in to #EdUpLegal. Making LegalEASY

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

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Dec 04, 202330:20
94. Making LegalEASY: The Latest of the Department of Education’s Regulations relating to Title IV Participation with Tony Guida, Partner at Duane Morris

94. Making LegalEASY: The Latest of the Department of Education’s Regulations relating to Title IV Participation with Tony Guida, Partner at Duane Morris

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is ⁠⁠⁠Deborah Solmor⁠⁠

In this episode, her guest is ⁠Tony Guida⁠ – Partner at ⁠Duane Morris⁠

Today we look at the Department of Education’s most recent suite of regulations impacting institutions’ participation in the Title IV program, specifically with respect to certification, financial responsibility and administrative capability. 

Links to Additional Resources: 

·      ⁠Fact Sheet: Protecting Students Through Final Regulations That Strengthen Department of Education Oversight and Monitoring of Colleges and Universities⁠

·      ⁠Biden-Harris Administration Releases Final Rules that Strengthen Accountability for Colleges and Consumer Protection for Students⁠

·      ⁠Copy of Final Regulations related to Financial Responsibility, Administrative Capability, Certification Procedures, Ability to Benefit (ATB)⁠

Listen in to #EdUpLegal. Making LegalEASY

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

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We make Education YOUR business 


Nov 17, 202335:43
93: MakingLegalEASY: Critical Thinking for Institutions Looking at Strategic Partnerships with Randy Frisch, President, City University of Seattle

93: MakingLegalEASY: Critical Thinking for Institutions Looking at Strategic Partnerships with Randy Frisch, President, City University of Seattle

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory, and compliance matters - EdUp Legal!

YOUR host is ⁠⁠Deborah Solmor⁠⁠.

In this episode, her guest is Randy Frisch, President at City University of Seattle , an affiliate of the National University system.

Tune in as we discuss the challenges facing smaller non-profit higher education institutions and considerations for strategic thinking about system models and affiliation alternatives.

Listen in to #EdUpLegal. #makinglegalEASY

Listen weekly to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese.

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Nov 04, 202324:34
92. Making LegalEASY: ContractsCon-Law School Edition Part 2: A Partnership to Bring Experiential Learning to Law School Students with Lisa Lang, Laura Frederick and Sasha Magee

92. Making LegalEASY: ContractsCon-Law School Edition Part 2: A Partnership to Bring Experiential Learning to Law School Students with Lisa Lang, Laura Frederick and Sasha Magee

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is ⁠⁠Deborah Solmor⁠⁠

In this episode, her guests are once again ⁠Lisa Lang⁠, Vice-President & General Counsel, Ohio Northern University; ⁠Laura Frederick⁠, Founder & CEO, ⁠How to Contract⁠; and ⁠Sasha Magee⁠, Strategic Sourcing Director, Intermountain Health & Adjunct Professor, University of Dayton School of Law.

Tune in as we debrief about the recent program these amazing women delivered last weekend at ONU’s ⁠Claude W. Pettit School of Law⁠ in connection with ⁠ContractsCon⁠ which brought the contracting process to ONU’s law students. 

Listen in to #EdUpLegal. Making LegalEASY

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

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Oct 27, 202330:21
91. Making LegalEASY: Diving In: The Department of Education’s New Gainful Employment Regulations with Dan Brozovic, Principal at The Powers Law Firm

91. Making LegalEASY: Diving In: The Department of Education’s New Gainful Employment Regulations with Dan Brozovic, Principal at The Powers Law Firm

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor

In this episode, her guest is Powers Pyles Sutter & Verville PC, Principal, Dan Brozovic. Listen in as they talk about the Department of Education’s new final gainful employment regulations that were announced on September 27th, with an effective date of July 1, 2024:

  • What programs are impacted by the new regulations?
  • What information do institutions need to be looking at to determine compliance?
  • What should institutions be doing now to ensure compliance later?

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A link to some additional resources:


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Oct 06, 202334:22
90. Making LegalEASY: What can we learn from the recent trend of litigation targeting consumer facing websites with Joe Lipchitz & Sandy Bilus, Partners at Saul Ewing

90. Making LegalEASY: What can we learn from the recent trend of litigation targeting consumer facing websites with Joe Lipchitz & Sandy Bilus, Partners at Saul Ewing

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor

In this episode, her guests are Saul Ewing partners Joe Lipchitz & Sandy Bilus. Listen in as they talk about the rise of litigation focused on data collection by consumer facing websites, including what information is being collected and how. They also discuss the legal theories behind these class action lawsuits and offer practical guidance for businesses related to risk mitigation. 

Listen in to #EdUpLegal

A link to some additional resources:

·      Protecting Your Business From Recent Trend of Wiretap Lawsuits Targeting Companies With Consumer-Facing Websites

·      Massachusetts seeing wave of ‘session replay’ suits

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

We make higher education LegalEASY.  

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Sep 25, 202329:23
89. Making LegalEASY: Monthly Meetups with Michele Shuster, Managing Partner, Mac Murray & Shuster, LLP

89. Making LegalEASY: Monthly Meetups with Michele Shuster, Managing Partner, Mac Murray & Shuster, LLP

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor

This episode marks the first in a new series called Monthly Meetups with Michele where Deborah and Michele will chat about trending legal, regulatory and compliance topics related to higher education marketing. In this episode they breakdown the difference between the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Federal Trade Commission (FTC), and dive into each agency’s purpose and priorities as they relates to marketing activities.   

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Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

We make higher education LegalEASY.  

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Sep 20, 202319:02
88. Making LegalEASY: Responding to Borrower Defense Claims with Scott Goldschmidt & Jeff Fink, Partners at Thompson Coburn

88. Making LegalEASY: Responding to Borrower Defense Claims with Scott Goldschmidt & Jeff Fink, Partners at Thompson Coburn

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor

 

In this episode, her guests are Scott Goldschmidt & Jeff Fink, Partners at Thompson Coburn and they chat about the increase in the number of institutions who have received notification from the Department of Education about pending borrower defense claims. 

 

     What is a borrower defense claim?

     Why are institutions getting notified about them now?

     What should an institution be thinking about in preparation to respond? 

Listen in to #EdUpLegal 

A link to some additional resources:

·       Thompson Coburn Website

·       Suggest Protocols for Responding to Individual Borrower Defense to Repayment Claims

·       Responding to Student Borrower Defense to Repayment (BDR) Claims (Webinar)

·       U.S. Department of Education BDR Site

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. We make higher education LegalEASY.  

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Sep 17, 202335:33
87. Making LegalEASY: Institution Disciplinary Proceedings: Learnings from a recent California Supreme Court Decision with Tery Gonsalves, Partner at Alston & Bird

87. Making LegalEASY: Institution Disciplinary Proceedings: Learnings from a recent California Supreme Court Decision with Tery Gonsalves, Partner at Alston & Bird

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor

In this episode, her guest is Tery Gonsalves, Partner at Alston & Bird and they discuss a recent California Supreme Court case that held that California law of fair procedure does not require a private institution to provide cross examination in a disciplinary proceeding for allegations of intimate partner violence. 

Listen in to #EdUpLegal

A link to some additional resources:

·      Education Advisory: California Supreme Court Says Cross-Examination Is Not Necessary for Campus Disciplinary Proceedings

·      Boermeester v. Carry

·      Alston & Bird: Tery Gonsalves’ Bio

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

We make higher education LegalEASY.  

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Sep 11, 202317:22
 86. Making LegalEASY: Part 2: A Deeper Dive into the Challenges & Risks Related to an Institution’s Marketing Efforts with Michele Shuster, Managing Partner Mac Murray & Shuster, LLP

86. Making LegalEASY: Part 2: A Deeper Dive into the Challenges & Risks Related to an Institution’s Marketing Efforts with Michele Shuster, Managing Partner Mac Murray & Shuster, LLP

  Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal!  YOUR host is ⁠Deborah Solmor⁠ In this episode, her guest is Michele Shuster, Managing Partner, Mac Murray & Shuster, LLP. Today is part 2 of their discussion and they dive into marketing compliance at the state level and offer practical guidance and tips for setting up a robust compliance program, including how to train, monitor, and stay abreast of changes in the regulatory environment.  Listen in to #EdUpLegal A link to some additional resources: ·      Mac Murray & Shuster Blog Information ·      LeadsCon Connect 2023 (September 27 - 28) ·      Pace ACX Conference (October 10 – 12)  Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese.  We make higher education LegalEASY.   Join YOUR EdUp community at ⁠The EdUp Experience⁠!  We make Education YOUR business 
Sep 01, 202326:52
85. Making LegalEASY: ContractsCon-Law School Edition: A Partnership to Bring Experiential Learning to Law School Students with Lisa Lang, Laura Frederick and Sasha Magee

85. Making LegalEASY: ContractsCon-Law School Edition: A Partnership to Bring Experiential Learning to Law School Students with Lisa Lang, Laura Frederick and Sasha Magee

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal!  YOUR host is ⁠Deborah Solmor⁠. In this episode, her guests are Lisa Lang, Vice-President & General Counsel, Ohio Northern University; Laura Frederick, Founder & CEO, How to Contract; and Sasha Magee, Strategic Sourcing Director, Intermountain Health & Adjunct Professor, University of Dayton School of Law  Today we build on the conversation Deborah had in Episode 80 where she talked to Charlie Rose, Dean of ONU’s law school, about the changing landscape of legal education and the continued need to focus on experiential learning programs. In this episode, her guests talk about a new partnership  between ONU’s Claude W. Pettit School of Law and ContractsCon to bring real and practical learning to ONU's students. Links to Additional Resources:  ·      Do It Afraid ·      You Can Contract Show ·      Practical Tips on How to Contract Listen in to #EdUpLegal. Making LegalEASY Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese.  Join YOUR EdUp community at ⁠The EdUp Experience⁠!  We make Education YOUR business


Aug 28, 202330:42
84. Making LegalEASY: Where Else Can We Expect to See Impact from SCOTUS’ Affirmative Action Decision with Lara Flath and Amy Van Gelder, partners at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom

84. Making LegalEASY: Where Else Can We Expect to See Impact from SCOTUS’ Affirmative Action Decision with Lara Flath and Amy Van Gelder, partners at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor

In this episode, her guests are Lara Flath and Amy Van Gelder, partners at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP and Affiliates

 

Today we take another look at the Supreme Court’s recent decision on race conscious admissions policies in higher education. We hear from two experts and the co-authors of Potential Private Sector Implications of the Supreme Court’s Affirmative Action Ruling.

Listen in to #EdUpLegal. Making LegalEASY!

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

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Aug 25, 202327:25
83. Making LegalEASY: Part 1: A Deep Dive into the Challenges & Risks Related to an Institution’s Marketing Efforts with Michele Shuster, Managing Partner Mac Murray & Shuster, LLP

83. Making LegalEASY: Part 1: A Deep Dive into the Challenges & Risks Related to an Institution’s Marketing Efforts with Michele Shuster, Managing Partner Mac Murray & Shuster, LLP

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor

In this episode, her guest is Michele Shuster, Managing Partner, Mac Murray & Shuster, LLP

Today we look at marketing and advertising and talk about risks and challenges associated with these activities in Part 1 or a 2-Part Series 

Listen in to #EdUpLegal

A link to some additional resources:

·      News and Insights About Related Topics on Firm Website

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

We make higher education legalEASY.  

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Aug 16, 202325:11
82. Making LegalEASY: A Look at the State of the Higher Education Insurance Market with Frank Cella, Managing Director & National Leader, Education Consortia Practice at Marsh

82. Making LegalEASY: A Look at the State of the Higher Education Insurance Market with Frank Cella, Managing Director & National Leader, Education Consortia Practice at Marsh

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor

In this episode, her guest is Frank Cella, Managing Director & National Leader, Education Consortia Practice at Marsh

Today we look at the state of the higher education insurance market. How are institutions adjusting to a hard market? What is the value of a robust Enterprise Risk Management program? And what are some “hidden gem” insurance products that institutions, parents, and students should know about. 

Listen in to #EdUpLegal

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

We make higher education legalEASY.  

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Aug 07, 202328:51
81. Making LegalEASY: A Contrast Between the U.S. and Canadian Higher Education Ecosystems with Michal Jaworski, Partner and Co-Chair, Higher Learning Practice Group at Clark Wilson LLP

81. Making LegalEASY: A Contrast Between the U.S. and Canadian Higher Education Ecosystems with Michal Jaworski, Partner and Co-Chair, Higher Learning Practice Group at Clark Wilson LLP

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is ⁠Deborah Solmor⁠

In this episode, her guest is Michal Jaworski, Partner and Co-Chair, Higher Learning Practice Group at Clark Wilson LLP and former in-house counsel at the University of British Columbia.

Today we dive into the similarities and differences between the U.S. and Canadian higher education ecosystems, including public versus private, federal regulation versus state and provincial oversight, and what it means to educate foreign students.

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A link to some additional resources:

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory,

and compliance questions without the legalese. 

We make higher education legalEASY.  

Join YOUR EdUp community at ⁠The EdUp Experience⁠! 

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Jul 24, 202324:11
80. Making LegalEASY: The Changing Landscape of Legal Education with Charlie Rose, Dean and Professor of Law at the Pettit College of Law at Ohio Northern University

80. Making LegalEASY: The Changing Landscape of Legal Education with Charlie Rose, Dean and Professor of Law at the Pettit College of Law at Ohio Northern University

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is ⁠Deborah Solmor⁠

In this episode, her guest is Charlie Rose, Dean and Professor of Law at the Pettit College of Law at Ohio Northern University

Today we look at how some law schools are focusing their curriculum on teaching more than just theory. How do we prepare new lawyers for the practice of law? Should law schools be leveraging artificial technology in their coursework? Do we have a crisis of not enough lawyers?

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A link to some additional resources:

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory,

and compliance questions without the legalese. 

We make higher education legalEASY.  

Join YOUR EdUp community at ⁠The EdUp Experience⁠! 

We make Education YOUR business


Jul 10, 202326:43
79. Making LegalEASY: Supreme Court’s decision regarding race conscious admissions policies w/Dayna Bowen Matthew, Dean & Harold H. Greene Professor of Law at George Washington University's Law School

79. Making LegalEASY: Supreme Court’s decision regarding race conscious admissions policies w/Dayna Bowen Matthew, Dean & Harold H. Greene Professor of Law at George Washington University's Law School

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is ⁠Deborah Solmor⁠

In this episode, her guest is Dayna Bowen Matthew, Dean and Harold H. Greene Professor of Law at the George Washington University Law School

Today we look at the aftermath of the United States Supreme Court’s recent decision in the Students for Fair Admissions cases against Harvard and the University of North Carolina. What does the decision say and what does it not say? What has happened since the ruling came down last week? What are some implications of the questions not answered in the decision?

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A link to some additional resources:

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory,

and compliance questions without the legalese. 

We make higher education legalEASY.  

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Jul 06, 202329:44
78. Making LegalEASY: A discussion about the Supreme Court’s Ruling in the Students for Fair Admissions Cases with Therese King Nohos, General Counsel at Governors State University

78. Making LegalEASY: A discussion about the Supreme Court’s Ruling in the Students for Fair Admissions Cases with Therese King Nohos, General Counsel at Governors State University

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor

In this episode, her guest is Therese King Nohos, General Counsel at Governors State University

Today we look at the United States Supreme Court’s decision in the Students for Fair Admissions cases wherein the Court held that the race conscious admissions policies at Harvard College and the University of North Carolina violated the Equal Protection Clause of the United States Constitution. We talk about the Court’s decision, what it means for institutions, and what questions the decision leaves unanswered.

Listen in to #EdUpLegal

A link to some additional resources:

·  Supreme Court Decision

·  Governors State University Statement

·  Secretary Cardona Statement on Supreme Court Ruling on College Affirmative Action Program

·  Fact Sheet: President Biden Announces Actions to Promote Educational Opportunity and Diversity in Colleges and Universities

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

We make higher education legalEASY.  

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Jul 01, 202320:60
77. Making LegalEASY: Name, Image & Likeness in College Athletics: From There to Here with Jason Montgomery, Partner at the Law Firm of Husch Blackwell

77. Making LegalEASY: Name, Image & Likeness in College Athletics: From There to Here with Jason Montgomery, Partner at the Law Firm of Husch Blackwell

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor⁠

In this episode, her guest is Jason Montgomery, Partner at the law firm of Husch Blackwell 

Today we look at “NIL” – name, image, and likeness - and recent developments related to college athletes. We will talk about the evolution of the NIL concept in college sports and how college athletes now have an opportunity to benefit from same. 

Listen in to #EdUpLegal

A link to some additional resources: 

• NCAA adopts interim name, image and likeness policy (7.01.2021)

• Navigating the Changing Landscape of College Athletics (1.27.2022) 

• 2023 NCAA Compliance Report: College Athletics at a Crossroads

• Alston Supreme Court Opinion

Listen in each week to get the buzz on the trending higher education legal, regulatory, and compliance questions without the legalese. 

We make higher education legalEASY.  

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Jun 26, 202334:29
76. Making LegalEASY: Student Loan Forgiveness - with Tery Gonsalves, Partner and Chair of the Education Practice at the Law Firm of Alston & Bird

76. Making LegalEASY: Student Loan Forgiveness - with Tery Gonsalves, Partner and Chair of the Education Practice at the Law Firm of Alston & Bird

Welcome to America's leading higher education podcast where we talk trending legal, regulatory and compliance matters - EdUp Legal! 

YOUR host is Deborah Solmor

In this episode, her guest is Tery Gonsalves, Partner and Chair of the education practice at the law firm of Alston & Bird.

Today we look at the student loan forgiveness landscape. What did President Biden’s plan provide for and why is the Supreme Court now looking at it? What are borrower defense claims and how are they related to the question of student loan forgiveness? Who in the government may have the authority to forgive outstanding student loans? 

Listen in to #EdUpLegal

A link to some additional resources:

https://dfipolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/DFI-Amicus-Brief-Biden-v.-Nebraska-S.Ct_..pdf

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Jun 19, 202335:03
75. Conversation with Camille Davidson, Dean and Professor of Law at Southern Illinois University School of Law

75. Conversation with Camille Davidson, Dean and Professor of Law at Southern Illinois University School of Law

In today’s episode, we welcome Camille M. Davidson, Dean, and Professor of Law at Southern Illinois University School of Law. Dean Davidson started as Dean amid the pandemic after serving as a judicial hearing officer for the State of North Carolina and as a tenured law professor and associate dean of academic affairs in faculty development in Charlotte, North Carolina.

This year Southern Illinois University School of Law, founded in the public interest to serve the public good, celebrates its 50th anniversary. Dean Davidson tells us that as part of the celebration, the school will host activities for the next 12 months, culminating with a gala in the spring of 2023. Dean Davidson shares with us that, as part of the celebration, they have showcased and celebrated the 166 alums that are serving or have served in the judiciary in a wall of judges.

Dean Davidson shares with us how she moved into legal academia, what prompted her to apply to be a dean, and how her experience has served her in being a dean. She gives us an insight into her priorities when she started her deanship, such as branding, diversity, and building a pipeline of students interested in law practice, and how those priorities have transpired throughout her deanship. Along with her priorities, she tells us about the joint JD and MD program they have at SIU and the courses she teaches.

Dean Davidson also shares her predictions for legal education in the upcoming decade. She tells us that she thinks we will see more schools going hybrid and online. She also tells us that legal education will have to figure out how to deliver in non-traditional ways while adjusting to the need to learn on the job and adapt to the next generation bar.

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Nov 17, 202229:56
74. Conversation with Professor Ashley Krenelka Chase, Stetson University College of Law

74. Conversation with Professor Ashley Krenelka Chase, Stetson University College of Law

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In today’s episode, we welcome Ashley Krenelka Chase, assistant professor of Law at Stetson University College of Law. At Stetson Law, she has taught legal research and writing and advanced research and technology courses. Before becoming a professor, she was the associate director of the law library and coordinator of legal practice technology. Professor Chase shares with us how she transitioned from serving in leadership in the library at Stetson to teaching on the tenure track, a move which she considered during the pandemic, so she could fulfill her desire to be able to interact more with students.

Professor Chase gives us insight into articles she has written that focus on prisoners and their access to justice through the research and technology that they have available. She tells us what excites her and troubles her about the topic and shares her suggestions for aiding prisoners in their access to justice. She tells us that there is a significant problem with access to information, a constitutional right for incarcerated individuals. She also discusses her latest book, Millennial Leadership in Law Schools: Essays in Disruption, Innovation, and the Future, which talks about the role millennials will play in shaping the future of legal education. Professor Chase shares how her students deal with the technology she has implemented in the curriculum to be more reflective of the technology used in the profession. She gives us some tips on some of the technology that is helpful to students and their future careers in the profession. Professor Chase shares her predictions for the future of legal education and her opinion that people and places should not be reduced to rankings, as that ultimately is harmful to the Academy and the legal profession. 

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Nov 09, 202235:10
73. Conversation with Madeleine Landrieu, Dean of Loyola University New Orleans College of Law

73. Conversation with Madeleine Landrieu, Dean of Loyola University New Orleans College of Law

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In today's episode, we welcome Madeleine Landrieu, Dean and Judge Adrian G. Duplantier, Distinguished Professor of Law at Loyola University New Orleans, College of Law, a position she has held since 2017. Dean Landrieu shares some differences in teaching Common Law and Civil Law in New Orleans, and notes that although Civil Law is limited to Louisiana in the United States, it is practiced worldwide.

Dean Landrieu shares with us her experience in private practice and serving 16 years on the bench, and how those experiences and her family's legacy led her to the deanship at her alma mater. She compares the roles of appellate court judge and being a dean of a law school, and how she continues to help educate jurists. Dean Landrieu explains the impetus for, and impact of, the Nancy Marsiglia Institute of Justice, which strives to expand knowledge about the law by teaching the constitution to lay people to reclaim civil discourse. She hopes that the Institute will become a model for law schools nationally. She also tells us about Loyola's experience working with law enforcement to provide training in tools that aid public safety, and her role as Chair of the ABA's Legal Education Police Practices Consortium, a consortium of 60 law schools, including St. Mary's University School of Law.

Lastly, she shares with us her thoughts regarding the evolution of legal education in the coming decade, and her hopes that legal education stays predominantly in-person, particularly when it comes to community and relationship building, with the use of hybrid models to enhance and enrich those in-person experiences.

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Oct 06, 202235:55
72. Conversation with TaWanda Stallworth, Dermot Groome and Anu Gupta from the Antiracist Development Institute Penn State Dickinson Law

72. Conversation with TaWanda Stallworth, Dermot Groome and Anu Gupta from the Antiracist Development Institute Penn State Dickinson Law

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In today's episode, we welcome three guests to discuss Penn State Dickinson Law's leadership and antiracist education: TaWanda H. Stallworth, MDiv, program manager for the Antiracist Development Institute, Professor Dermot Groome, and Anu Gupta, founder and CEO of Be More and a systems designer for the Antiracist Development Institute.

The Antiracist Development Institute came out of several Penn State Law faculty resolutions that included adopting an antiracist approach to legal education in June 2020. The Institute built on the foundational work of Dean Conway and four Black women Dean colleagues who started the Law Dean's Antiracist Clearinghouse Project in 2020. Listen as she discusses the Clearinghouse and the Institute in detail in episode 57.

Professor Groome explains why the faculty decided to create a race and equal protection in the law course and explains its development and implementation. Program Manager Stallworth tells us about the new initiative of a multi-volume series called building an Antiracist Law School, Legal Academy, and Legal Profession. She shares with us the vast collaboration behind the multi-volume series and the support it has received within and outside the academy. Systems designer Anu Gupta shares how thinking about racism as a system's problem that needs system solutions will help inspire more comprehensive reform. They share the development of course content and the multi-volume series, which helps form and shape the course content. They tell us that the goal of antiracism is a world where all of us are equal and can belong with dignity and humanity. To get involved, check out their website.

In the end, they share their predictions for the future of legal education in the coming decade. Professor Groome tells us the importance of teaching students about racism in the legal system. Program Manager Stallworth tells us she anticipates that more people will learn about the problems associated with questioning the merits of Black women. Finally, systems designer Gupta shares his vision for the future of legal education and how antiracism will be discussed beyond issues involving race and equal protection of the law, and integrated in the more traditional courses such as corporations, torts, and contracts.

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Sep 28, 202237:44
71. Conversation with Brian Gallini, Dean of Willamette College of Law

71. Conversation with Brian Gallini, Dean of Willamette College of Law

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In today's episode, we welcome Brian Gallini, the Dean of Willamette University College of Law in Salem, Oregon, a position he has held since 2020.

He shares his experience becoming a dean during the pandemic and his transition from the University of Arkansas. Dean Gallini tells us that he was attracted by Willamette's innovation, nimbleness, and flexibility, which match his leadership philosophy.

He describes Willamette's partnerships with different institutions that focus on providing a mentorship-based approach for admission. He also shares his ideas for alternative licensing and how he and others have been diligently working to explore alternative pathways in Oregon. He shares how members from all three Oregon Law Schools and other members of the Bench and Bar have come together to explore the possibilities that might make sense for Oregon. From this exploration, two things emerged, the Oregon experiential pathway and the supervised practice pathway, which he tells us are in the conceptual phase.

Further, he shares how working as a hockey coach with the University of Pennsylvania and Arkansas for over a decade has impacted his dean's leadership, and he recounts some of those valuable lessons.

Lastly, he shares his prediction for the evolution of legal education in the upcoming decade. He tells us that his aspirational vision is that ten years from now, there is an empirically accepted definition for minimum competence that outlines with transparency and clarity the measurable skills for newly licensed lawyers. He also tells us that he hopes for a better connection between legal education and skills training.

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Sep 16, 202229:24
70. Conversation with David Thomson, Professor of Practice and John C. Dwan Professor of Online Learning, Sturm College of Law at the University of Denver

70. Conversation with David Thomson, Professor of Practice and John C. Dwan Professor of Online Learning, Sturm College of Law at the University of Denver

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In today’s episode, we welcome David Thomson, the John C. Dwan Professor of Online Learning at Sturm College of Law at the University of Denver.

Professor Thomson tells us about his new book—The Way Forward for Legal Education. In his book, he suggests several proposals that include abandoning the LSAT and instead developing new admission criteria, with more of a focus on teaching justice and service. Other suggestions he mentions are allowing admission to a larger cohort, adding something akin to California's Baby Bar at the conclusion of the 1L year, and greater integration and expansion of experiential learning throughout the curriculum.

Professor Thomson also shares his weekly newsletter, called the Chalk Board Life, which he started amid the pandemic. He shares in his newsletter reflections on the core of teaching and how to preserve the heart in teaching regardless of the delivery method.

He also tells us about the upcoming conference he and his colleagues are hosting in Denver, the Hybrid and Online Learning Pedagogy Conference, which will take place September 22-24, 2022, at Sturm College of Law in Denver. He shares with us how the conference came to be and what we can look forward to. Registration is still open.

After sharing with us his vision for the future of legal education, Professor Thomson explains how he thinks legal education will change in the coming decade. He believes that the changes in legal education will happen at different speeds, at different places, based on various leadership and institutional incentives.

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Sep 12, 202235:13
69. Conversation with Aliza Shatzman, Esq., Co-founder of The Legal Accountability Project

69. Conversation with Aliza Shatzman, Esq., Co-founder of The Legal Accountability Project

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In today’s episode, we welcome Aliza Shatzman, the president and co-founder of the Legal Accountability Project, a non-profit aimed at ensuring law clerks have positive clerkship experiences and helping support and extend resources to those who don’t.

Aliza shares with us her experiences with gender discrimination, harassment, and retaliation while clerking in D.C., the revocation of her dream job, and the exemption that judges and clerks have from Title VII that led her to co-found the Legal Accountability project on June 1, 2022, with Matt Goodman. She shares with us the reception she is getting for her non-profit from the various stakeholders, such as judges, former clerks, current clerks, student leaders, and law schools. She tells us the two initiatives the Legal Accountability Project is working on in collaboration with law schools beginning in the fall. The first is a centralized reporting database that provides anonymous information on clerkships, and the second is a workplace assessment of the federal and state judiciaries.

Finally, she shares her thoughts on the evolution of legal education and her predictions for the coming decade. She hopes that this year, 10 law schools will partner with the Legal Accountability Project on the database and that more will partner with them on the workplace assessment, 5-10 years down the road. On a broader scale, she hopes legal education is more responsive to student needs.

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Sep 09, 202228:55
68. Conversation with Jennifer Gerarda Brown, Dean of Quinnipiac University School of Law

68. Conversation with Jennifer Gerarda Brown, Dean of Quinnipiac University School of Law

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In today's episode, we welcome Jennifer Gerarda Brown. She is Dean and Professor of Law of the Quinnipiac University School of Law, a position she has held since 2013. She has been on their faculty since 1994. Dean Brown shares with us her role when the pandemic hit and how she served as interim provost at Quinnipiac during this time. She got to see it all from the provost's office. Instead of dealing with the day-to-day, she dealt with everyone on the management committee of the University, an experience which informs some of her work in her dean role. She gives us an insight into what they are doing at Quinnipiac, such as a 24-hour retreat for students called Beginners Wisdom: Integrating Personal and Professional Values, an idea that came from students in the Fall of 2012. It is for all law students, and they invite staff and alumni. During this retreat, they meditate, talk about change, how people change in law school, and talk about isolation and loneliness. Dean Brown also tells us about the new 1L course at Quinnipiac to help address the professional identity formation requirements called Foundations of Practice, which is a course focused on how students sustain themselves during the first year of law school and how to set a good foundation for your legal education. 

Dean Brown also talks with us about the initiatives the Human Trafficking Prevention Program is undertaking with students playing a significant role. She shares her predictions for the upcoming decade, including what role distance education is likely to play, and maintaining a significant in person program, especially in the first year when students struggle the most. 


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Aug 25, 202239:21
67. Conversation with Elisabeth Steele, Educator, Coach and Instructor to Law Students, Faculty and Professionals

67. Conversation with Elisabeth Steele, Educator, Coach and Instructor to Law Students, Faculty and Professionals

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We welcome Elisabeth Steele from the University of Hawai'i at Mānoa in today's episode. Elisabeth is a pedagogical coach and a virtual presence coach. She teaches effective online practices, involving classroom observations, face-to-face classes, meeting with students, conducting small group instructional diagnoses, and providing professional development to the instructors.

Elisabeth shares with us her passion project that developed during the pandemic, which includes helping educators and attorneys to communicate more effectively on video. She shares with us some tips on things to think about when presenting or teaching online as far as visual appeal. She tells us that an excellent way to make sure people feel connected is by having good audio and being on brand with your message. You want your background to complete your message, so make sure you are the focus of your video and keep backgrounds in the background.

She also shares with us about her focus on people of color exemplars, diversity in legal education, diversity among faculty, diversity generally, inclusiveness, and belonging, how it shows up in her work and how we can help it show up in our work.

Finally, she shares with us how these changes will impact the evolution of legal education in the coming decade and the movement from a synchronous, remote lecture to educational experiences that are more interactive, which is a focus on recreating what a lot of law practice work looks like.

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Aug 17, 202236:10
66. Conversation with Antony Page, Dean of Florida International University College of Law

66. Conversation with Antony Page, Dean of Florida International University College of Law

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In today’s episode, we welcome Dean Antony Page, the third dean of the Florida International University College of Law, a position he has held since the Summer of 2018.

He shares with us his unconventional path to the deanship, his background as a professor, his public and private sector background, and how he served as a diplomat in the Canadian foreign service.

Dean Page tells us about the diversity of FIU and how FIU is plurality Hispanic, majority minority not to mention that roughly half of the student population are the first in their family to have graduated from a four-year college, making them first-generation law students. He also shares with us the law path program, which started in the Summer of 2018, student wellness, and some secrets on FIU’s success in bar preparation and passage. Furthermore, Dean Page shares FIU’s international law commission fellowships, which he started with professor Charles Jalloh several years ago, where students are sent to serve as fellows or externs at the International Law Commission in Geneva.

He discusses his predictions on legal education, which are a focus on skill, and a lot less memorizing doctrine. He also tells us that he would like to see changes in the regulators and more experimentation from their end.

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Aug 10, 202243:44
65. Conversation with Karen Sneddon, Interim Dean and Professor at Law at Mercer University School of Law

65. Conversation with Karen Sneddon, Interim Dean and Professor at Law at Mercer University School of Law

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In today’s episode, we welcome Karen J. Sneddon, Interim Dean and Professor of Law of Mercer University School of Law in Macon, Georgia, a position she started in October 2021. Dean Sneddon, who has been a part of the faculty at Mercer since 2006, shares with us that in 2023 they will be celebrating their 150th anniversary. 

Dean Sneddon tells us that part of Mercer’s commitment is preparing students for practice and preparing them to be strong writers. A writer is what Dean Sneddon believes best describes what a lawyer does. She tells us writing is part of our identity because we put ourselves on the page when we write. It is about thinking "I will make a difference with every word I choose to put on the page." It is to advance a position, make an argument, and make a difference, big or small.

Dean Sneddon also shares with us her law review article Clause A to Clause Z: Narrative Transportation and the Transactional Reader, for which she received the 2020 Teresa G. Phelps Scholarship Award for Legal Communication. She shares with us the idea of making a transactional document more narrative, which makes it more engaging.

Dean Sneddon also tells us some of the things Mercer is doing to prepare students for their career and how every student at Mercer majors in changing the world. Finally, she shares her thoughts on legal education in the upcoming decade and how there will be more of a connection to actual practice, experiential opportunities, and leadership training in the three years of law school.

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Aug 03, 202231:14
64. Conversation with Michael H. Bassett, Author and Senior Partner at the Bassett Law Firm

64. Conversation with Michael H. Bassett, Author and Senior Partner at the Bassett Law Firm

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In today’s episode, we welcome a 1987 St. Mary's University School of Law alumni, Mike Bassett, a civil litigation attorney who has practiced law for nearly four decades. He is the founder of the Bassett Firm, a Dallas-based boutique law firm that has tried over 300 cases to verdict in motor vehicle accident, criminal defense, food-borne illness, non-subscriber employer liability and subrogation cases. He is also host of a podcast, Legal Grounds—Conversations on Life, Leadership, and the Law, and a published author of a very personal book, The Man in the Ditch—A Redemption Story for Today. 

He tells us that being a lawyer is a vocation and shares with us what it is like to be a young lawyer in the Bassett Law firm, the essential doctrines in the profession, and the need to be a lifelong learner and to be comfortable with hard work. Mike shares his experience in law school and how he found his passion in the profession following graduation. His passion comes from helping and being there for his clients who end up in the ditch. He tells us that as lawyers, we need to understand that we cannot do this alone and must remember that we have a community all around us. We need to embrace the concept of forgiveness and compassion and be grounded in the idea of decency, particularly because we are blessed to have a legal education. Finally, he shares his thoughts about the evolution of legal education in the coming decade and the need to provide increased access to legal education, focusing on how to engage people remotely. He also shares the advice he would give to an incoming law school class, including the commitment to consistency and persistence needed to be successful. 

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Jul 20, 202232:11
63. Conversation with Laura A. Rosenbury, Dean and Levin, Mabie & Levin Professor of Law at the University of Florida Levin College of Law

63. Conversation with Laura A. Rosenbury, Dean and Levin, Mabie & Levin Professor of Law at the University of Florida Levin College of Law

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In today's episode, we welcome Laura A. Rosenbury. She is the Dean and Levin, Mabie & Levin Professor of Law at the University of Florida Levin College of Law, a position she has held since July 2015. Dean Rosenbury shares the remarkable progress Levin College of Law is making, including a 200% increase in applications, 31 new faculty members, fundraising exceeding $100 million in private funds, and having six of the most accomplished and diverse classes in the law school's 113-year history within the past seven years. Dean Rosenbury shares some of the quick changes she and her team made to generate more applications, improve contacts with employers, and increase alumni outreach. She also explains how outreach to over 1000 alumni led to their $100 million in funds, through both large and small gifts. All of the successes since 2016 have meant a jump for the Levin College of Law of 27 spots in the U.S. News rankings, placing them among the top 25 law schools in the nation. Dean Rosenbury predicts increased use of the internet to accelerate connections globally, and utilizing zoom to expose students to the diversity of legal practice, as likely to be part of the future of legal education. 

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Jun 29, 202231:57
62. Conversation with Carla D. Pratt, Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher Chair in Civil Rights, Race, and Justice in the Law at OU Law, and former Dean at Washburn University School of Law

62. Conversation with Carla D. Pratt, Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher Chair in Civil Rights, Race, and Justice in the Law at OU Law, and former Dean at Washburn University School of Law

Welcome back to America's leading higher education law podcast, EdUp Legal - part of the EdUp Experience Podcast Network!

In today's episode, we welcome Carla D. Pratt, a national leader in diversity and inclusion and the holder of the inaugural Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher Chair in Civil Rights, Race, and Justice in the Law at the University of Oklahoma College of Law, a position she starts this summer after four years as dean of Washburn University School of Law.

Dean Pratt describes her journey to the dean position at Washburn after having spent considerable time at Penn State, noting that it was Washburn's strong history and commitment to inclusion that attracted her to the position. Dean Pratt shares the innovative curricular approach at Washburn that allows students to receive one-third of their JD degree through distance education. This enables students to spend their last year in residence wherever they intend to live and practice after they graduate and pass the bar exam. The distance education opportunity also allows them to enter the legal market sooner to get some experience in the kind of law they intend to practice through a paid externship in the local legal market. Currently, their first cohort taking advantage of this innovation is spread out among 12 different states across the nation.

Dean Pratt discusses the conclusion of her dean position at Washburn at the end of spring 2022, and her new position in her home state of Oklahoma, serving as the inaugural Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher Chair in Civil Rights, Race, and Justice in Law at the University of Oklahoma College of Law. In addition to her enthusiasm over being back home and being honored with this endowed chair, she predicts the future of legal education and her hopes for innovation that includes increased accessibility to legal education through online delivery. 

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Jun 08, 202230:06
61. Conversation with Felicia Epps, Dean and Professor of Law at the University of North Texas at Dallas College of Law

61. Conversation with Felicia Epps, Dean and Professor of Law at the University of North Texas at Dallas College of Law

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Today’s episode welcomes Felicia Epps, Dean, and Professor of Law at the University of North Texas Dallas College of Law. Dean Epps talks to us about UNT Dallas College of Law, the newest and 10th law school in Texas, and the newest ABA accredited law school in the country [at the time of recording, they were provisionally approved; since then, they received the outstanding news that they are fully accredited!]. UNT Dallas College of Law accepted its first class in 2014 and was provisionally approved in 2017. Dean Epps shares with us the commitment at the law school to first-generation students, diversity, non-traditional and underrepresented students, and practical skills. Dean Epps shares her background as a Marine and how those skills transfer to her deanship at UNT Dallas College of Law and to her professional identity. Dean Epps also tells us details about the class she used to teach on the death penalty and the new course she is working on putting together next year regarding court etiquette and what to do and not do in court. We also learn about the 3 jail cells in the law school building, one of which was occupied by Lee Harvey Oswald after he shot President Kennedy. Finally, she shares with us how she thinks legal education will continue to evolve over the coming decade, which she believes will include increased emphasis on practical skills, and more diversity in the legal profession, so that lawyers look more like the communities they serve. 

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May 18, 202233:29
60. Conversation with Ambassador Morse Tan, Dean of Liberty University School of Law

60. Conversation with Ambassador Morse Tan, Dean of Liberty University School of Law

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In this episode, we welcome the new Dean of the Liberty University School of Law, Morse Hyun-Myung Tan. In addition to his work in academia, and in large law firms and as mediator for organizational clients, Dean Tan brings with him the unusual experience of serving as Ambassador at Large for the U.S. State Department’s Office of Global Criminal Justice, where he oversaw the prosecution of war criminals in Sri Lanka, Rwanda, the Balkans, and Lebanon. During this podcast, Dean Tan shares his historical studies of mass atrocities and their relation to current conflicts in North Korea, Russia, and Ukraine, respectively. Dean Tan also opines as to the likely outcome of Russia's mass atrocity crimes in the global context and the International Criminal Court. 

Dean Tan discusses some of the great things going on at Liberty, and the tremendously supportive community one finds there. They have intensive programming to help students pass the Bar exam, and those efforts are resulting in significant success.

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May 11, 202235:50
59. Conversation with Lee Fisher, Dean and Professor of Law at Cleveland-Marshall College of Law at Cleveland State University

59. Conversation with Lee Fisher, Dean and Professor of Law at Cleveland-Marshall College of Law at Cleveland State University

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In this episode, we welcome Lee Fisher, who serves as Dean and Joseph C. Hostetler BakerHostetler Chair in Law at Cleveland-Marshall College of Law at Cleveland State University, a position he has held since 2017. Dean Fisher shares with us his unusual path to the deanship, from being Ohio Attorney General from 1991 to 1995, to serving as Ohio Lieutenant Governor; Director of the Ohio Department of Development, State Senator; and State Representative, among other positions. He shares that although he has loved every position in his career, his favorite is being a dean because in working with students, he feels he has found the fountain of youth.

Dean Fisher shares the three most serious challenges he has faced or is facing during his deanship at Cleveland-Marshall College of Law. They include unrealized merger discussions with the University of Akron Law School; being reported by the ABA as out of compliance due to financial concerns related to additional staff hiring, something that has since been rectified; and a petition to change the name of the law school. He shares how this name change came about, and the serious work that has been done to ensure that everyone has a seat at the table, from students to faculty to alumni. He shares how taking this approach assures that everyone’s voices are heard, and that such stakeholder inclusion is demonstrative of his approach to leadership, and consistent with what he teaches law students about leadership.  

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May 03, 202235:03
58. Conversation with Michael Waterstone, Fritz B. Burns Dean and Loyola Marymount Law School Senior Vice President

58. Conversation with Michael Waterstone, Fritz B. Burns Dean and Loyola Marymount Law School Senior Vice President

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In today's episode, we welcome Michael Waterstone, who was appointed the 18th Dean and Senior Vice-President of Loyola Marymount Law School in Los Angeles in June of 2016.

Dean Waterstone shares his path to the deanship and the values that resonate with him at Loyola Marymount, including the commitment to experimental education and teaching, the commitment to meaningful outcomes, staying ahead of the curve in the way they teach and who they teach, and their commitment to social justice. Dean Waterstone shares that a part of Loyola Marymount's learning outcomes include learning about systemic inequality, and how their clinics are a visible manifestation of their commitment to social justice. One example includes the success for one clinic client, Andrew Wilson, who had served 32 years in jail for a crime he did not commit, and through the clinic's efforts was released. In under an hour Mr. Wilson was on their campus wearing a Loyola T-shirt, surrounded by his team of student attorneys. You will also learn about the part-time legal education program at Loyola Marymount, which follows a boot camp format. 

Dean Waterstone shares his scholarship in disability law and the fantastic things they are doing at Loyola in their dedication to disability law. He concludes with his predictions for the future of legal education, which he believes will transform how institutions make progress on creating student populations that better serve and reflect the communities in which they live.

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Apr 21, 202232:32
57. Conversation with Danielle Conway, Dean and Donald J. Farage Professor of Law at Penn State Dickinson Law

57. Conversation with Danielle Conway, Dean and Donald J. Farage Professor of Law at Penn State Dickinson Law

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In today’s episode, we welcome Dean Danielle M. Conway, someone I admire and who has inspired me since before I was Dean. Dean Conway is the Dean and Donald J. Farage Professor of Law at Penn State Dickinson Law. Dean Conway shares her extraordinary efforts in starting the Law Dean’s Anti-Racist Clearinghouse Project, which launched in 2020, along with her colleagues, Dean Angela Onwuachi-Willig, Dean Kimberly Mutcherson, Dean Carla Pratt, and Dean Danielle Holley-Walker. Dean Conway tells us that this project was born out of the pain and frustration felt after the murder of George Floyd and other black and brown people, and the lack of protection under the law for them. She tells us how the strong bond between the five resonated throughout the entire legal academy, which gives all of us great hope that it will help transform the system of laws and society.

You will learn how Dean Conway is changing the world with the Anti-Racist Development Institute (ADI). This complementary organization will educate subscribers on identifying and implementing anti-racist and anti-racism policies, practices. There are more than 31 law schools involved and 80 contributors from over 200 law schools who will write chapters for the book series, which is the platform for the ADI. Dean Conway shares with us the initiatives she has taken at her law school and the difference they have made, including an increase in the number of faculty of color from 12% to 30% since 2019.

Dean Conway also shares how the support of her husband and the leadership team at Penn State University help her manage to be Dean of a law school, lead the way in anti-racism efforts, and keep up with the Clearinghouse Project, all while being a mom to a ten-year-old. Dean Conway concludes with her predictions for the future of legal education, which she believes will transform how equality and the rule of law are taught.

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Apr 19, 202230:30
56. Conversation with Jeffrey Lowe, Global Practice Leader, Law Firm Practice; Managing Partner, D.C. Office, at Major, Lindsey & Africa and Ru Bhatt, Partner at Major, Lindsey & Africa

56. Conversation with Jeffrey Lowe, Global Practice Leader, Law Firm Practice; Managing Partner, D.C. Office, at Major, Lindsey & Africa and Ru Bhatt, Partner at Major, Lindsey & Africa

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This episode of EdUp Legal includes two partners from the #1 ranked legal search firm in the United States, Major, Lindsey & Africa. Major, Lindsey & Africa is a global navigator for lawyers at any stage of their career, and includes today's guests, Jeffrey Lowe, Global Practice Leader and Law Firm Practice Managing Partner of the Washington D.C. office, and Ru Bhatt, Partner in the New York Associate Practice Group. Partners Lowe and Bhatt discuss the hiring in the legal market during the pandemic, and predict what we are likely to see in the near term. They share advice for law students and lawyers on maximizing their success in the job market, explain the necessity of networking, and discuss their new partnership with BarBri, that will offer law students with practical, real-world guidance on beginning and navigating their legal careers, including live webinars such as “10 Questions to Ask When Selecting a Practice Area” and “Navigating and Preparing for OCI." Listen to some fun facts as well, including the "I knew him when" story of how Jeffrey and I know each other, and Rhu's pro bono work fundraising for local and national LGBTQ+ and Asian American charity organizations by serving on their board, as a volunteer, and as a renowned DJ!

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Apr 14, 202235:28
55. Conversation with Anthony Niedwiecki, President and Dean at Mitchell Hamline School of Law

55. Conversation with Anthony Niedwiecki, President and Dean at Mitchell Hamline School of Law

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Today's program features Anthony Niedwiecki, who started as President and Dean at Mitchell Hamline School of Law in 2020. Prior to that, he was dean and professor of Law at Golden Gate University School of Law from 2017-2020. Dean Niedwiecki brings with him a wealth of experience teaching at additional law schools, commercial litigation experience, and service in the elected position of city commissioner and vice mayor of a city of 40,000 in south Florida. Dean Niedwiecki is passionate about law and civil rights, and he is dedicated to improving the community and transforming lives, and helping to address the racial reckoning occurring in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where Mitchell Hamline is located. Mitchell Hamline School of Law recently announced creation of the Center for the Study of Black Life and the Law, which will be a repository for both theory and policy on how laws and legislative proposals affect Black life.

Dean Niedwiecki also discusses their hybrid delivery option for the J.D. degree, and the unique Prison-to-Law Pipeline that would establish the first ABA-accredited juris doctorate and paralegal degree opportunities for inmates. He shares the statistic that recidivism drops with every degree earned by inmates. He also discusses alternative licensing options to the Bar Exam, which he notes has racist roots in its developmental history. Learn more about Dean Niedwiecki, Mitchell Hamline School of Law, and his predictions about the future of legal education.

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Apr 12, 202231:26
54. Conversation with Megan M. Carpenter, Dean at Franklin Pierce School of Law at the University of New Hampshire

54. Conversation with Megan M. Carpenter, Dean at Franklin Pierce School of Law at the University of New Hampshire

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Dean Megan M. Carpenter began her role at the University of New Hampshire, Franklin Pierce School of Law in summer 2017. The fit was a natural one for Dean Carpenter given her expertise in intellectual property and innovation, particularly with Franklin Pierce School of Law having the #4 IP program in the country. This episode explores the robust programming in IP at UNH Franklin Pierce School of Law, including a hybrid JD focused on IP that engages students in immersions in a variety of cities so that they can learn from experts in the field where they work. Dean Carpenter also discusses the impressive Daniel Webster Scholar Honors Program, a first-of-its-kind program in the country that tests students with a variant of the New Hampshire Bar exam during their last two years of law school, making them members of the New Hampshire bar the day before graduation. Graduates of the Honors Program are also eligible to sit for the bar exam in any jurisdiction outside New Hampshire for which they would qualify having graduated from an ABA-accredited law school, and the program now boasts alumni in more than a dozen other bars throughout the country. Finally, Dean Carpenter shares her thoughts about the future of legal education and its likely unbundling in order to meet the changing demands of the profession and increasing gaps in access to justice.

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Apr 05, 202233:48
53. Conversation with Judith Daar, Ambassador Patricia L. Herbold Dean Professor of Law at Northern Kentucky University Chase School of Law

53. Conversation with Judith Daar, Ambassador Patricia L. Herbold Dean Professor of Law at Northern Kentucky University Chase School of Law

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Judith Daar, 16th Dean of Northern Kentucky University Chase College of Law, began her dean tenure in summer 2019, and during this episode she shares how she does the job while she and her husband commute every other weekend between Kentucky and California, where her husband has been hard at work with infectious diseases and aiding the pandemic fight. The pandemic made their commuting more challenging, and early on, she was often the only person on the flight with her puppy, Chase, named for the law school. Dean Daar is an expert in law and assisted reproductive technologies and during our conversation she shared some of the developments in that field for which she was the original casebook author. Dean Daar explains how recent legislation addressing abortion and expanded definitions of personhood sometimes has unintended consequences on assisted reproductive technologies like IVF.
Dean Daar shared her excitement about the gift just announced from Alumnus W. Bruce Lunsford for $3 million, the largest gift in the College's history, and one that expands the impact of his original gift that established the W. Bruce Lunsford Academy for Law, Business + Technology, an honors program that provides students hands-on and conceptual training in applications of law, business and technology. This gift, which triples the initial investment, will increase Lunsford Fellowships for students, and expand networking and placement opportunities for students and graduates, among other initiatives. Learn more about this exciting program and the benefits for students of Chase College of Law in this episode.
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Apr 01, 202228:35
52. Conversation with J. Rich Leonard, Dean at Norman Adrian Wiggins School of Law at Campbell University

52. Conversation with J. Rich Leonard, Dean at Norman Adrian Wiggins School of Law at Campbell University

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Enjoy this conversation with J. Rich Leonard, Dean at Norman Adrian Wiggins School of Law at Campbell University, and learn more about how the 5th dean of the law school transitioned to being a leader in legal education after decades on the federal bench. Dean Leonard spearheaded a holistic review of the law school's curriculum that resulted in identifying nine specific practice areas and expanding their clinical programs. Under Dean Leonard's direction, Campbell Law added a unique FLEX JD program, a mentoring program, dual degree and 3+3 programs, including addition of an LL.M. available to law students, judges and attorneys through a partnership with the University of Nottingham, and a Certificate in Patent Law. He speaks passionately about the school's Ghana Summer Program that he leads for law students each year, and describes the comprehensive bar preparation program that is supporting impressive student success. 

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Mar 29, 202229:60